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| Posted On Aug 20, 2008 at 3:49 PM |
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timdavid
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What is your biggest question about card tricks? In other words, how can I best help you to become a better card magician?
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Aug 20, 2008 at 4:04 PM |
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Well, one thing I've been meaning to ask is: What types of tricks impress people usually the most? Whether it be mental discoveries, Flashy-Showy tricks, Pick-a-Card tricks, etc. I'd like to get everyone's opinion on this.
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"Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be." -Abraham Lincoln
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Aug 25, 2008 at 10:30 PM |
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YUP. We magician want to impress people with handful and handful of tricks,but one thing,which types of tricks would impress the most... Something they couldn't figure it out? No clue? Absolutely crazy? That's what i'm searching for.
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| Posted On Aug 26, 2008 at 4:51 PM |
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Same here, maxpayne. I try to find tricks that amaze people, and I think I should start keeping count of what types of tricks impress the most.
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| Posted On Aug 27, 2008 at 1:07 AM |
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Mindfreak would be great if you perform it well. As i know mentalism-think a number 1-20 and you reveal the chosen number; would be a simple and good impact tricks. I have a friend, he's cool and awesome, doing simple trick and walk away. He does trick for few minutes and go away,leaving no clue to the spectator. That impress the most. Everytime he would say something like: "yes,i can read your mind of course,now i have to leave,the time has come." he sounds cold and just walk away,it makes me chill for the first time.
But i did have some of my friend,making jokes around and some of them show off, they doesn't look great. Maybe the way you perform and act is very important for the magic routine. It helps in impress.
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Aug 27, 2008 at 5:40 PM |
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That could be a major impact. Actually performance is 90% of it in my opinion. Around my friends and people I know well I tend to be more relaxed and make a few jokes, but when doing street magic I tend to just act more mysterious in a sense.
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Aug 30, 2008 at 12:56 PM |
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To answer this question, I would have to say a big fat..."It depends".
There are a few factors that play a BIG role in determining which tricks will have impact.
1. WHO is your audience?
Young or old? Male or female? City folk or country bumpkin? Wants to be fooled or wants to figure everything out? "Grabby" or polite?
How you answer this question will determine which types of effects you perform. You wouldn't do a mentalism effect for a 6 year old at a birthday party.
2. What is the situation?
Scheduled booking or impromptu? One on one or small crowd? Surrounded or not?
If people are at a magic show, it will take more to impress them. If you are performing impromptu and no one knows you're a magician...you can REALLY blow them away. Especially with mentalism.
3. What is your goal?
To make them laugh, cry, be amazed, learn something, get motivated, or something else?
What KIND of impact do you want to have? You gotta know if it's going to happen.
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Aug 30, 2008 at 1:55 PM |
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Two things I'd like to add to what Tim said, one of which is what Tim has said a dozen times over.
First, you have to find your style of doing things. If you watch a magician do a trick you don't want to do it the same way he does it and another trick the way another magician does it. Find what best works for you and do tricks that suit your style. Don't just do tricks because you think they look good.
Second, as Tim has said many times "THINK LIKE A SPECTATOR". What kind of tricks would they WANT to see? After that you'll be doing just fine.
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Aug 31, 2008 at 8:30 AM |
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THAT explains a lot. For instance, when performing for (some of my friends), dad, grandpa or someone like that, their goal is to figure everything out. But I would do the same tricks for what I would do for everyone else...( my mom, my aunts and uncles, some of my friends...etc)
That alone explains to me how to make my tricks higher impact.
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Aug 31, 2008 at 11:57 AM |
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Ya family tends to be the hardest to do magic tricks for, especially parents. If I recall correctly Tim said even his parents try really hard to figure his stuff out. I'm pretty sure that's just a family thing though 
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Sep 1, 2008 at 8:55 PM |
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Well i have to say ow do you put together an actual show. like i know alot of tricks but most of them are one on one close up tricks or small groups. plus the fact that i dont have as much variety as i would like i can fill up usually about 5 to 10 minutes before i start running out nowhere near a full show. any ideas?
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Sep 2, 2008 at 10:27 AM |
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cole you have to remember that a magic show isn't all about the magic tricks. Depending on what type of show you intend to perform a lot of it is conversation, presentation, and display that's NOT the trick.
If your tricks along fill up 5-10 minutes of time you can easily fill 20-30 minutes of a show with all that other stuff.
As for how to set up a show Tim has a few articles and blogs on TheMagicTeacher talking about all that.
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Sep 2, 2008 at 2:32 PM |
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Yes, when I do a magic show by myself or with my cousin, or course I am nervous, but about 2 minutes before the show I just breathe deeply and stretch a bit, and it loosens me up a bit. I am usually very relaxed and often will carry on small conversations during the show, depending on the conversation, I don't just talk about ANYTHING 
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Sep 4, 2008 at 6:02 PM |
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well im not nervous its just the fact that i have a small number of tricks most of them jaw dropping for the average joe but it doesnt take long for my tricks to run out
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Sep 7, 2008 at 11:45 AM |
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I don't have much tricks Paint it Black isnt a long song, but there is only really one or if you want to say two tricks. As already stated It's not all tricks. A show is a performance.
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| Re: Your biggest question |
| Posted On Sep 14, 2008 at 9:25 PM |
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Alright, I would like to say that you don't need a whole lot of card tricks to be an accomplished magician. It is better to know a few card tricks to perfection (I suppose that it's impossible for it to be perfect, though aim for flawless) than to know many card tricks. The english conjurer David Devant was once approached by an amateur magician who said: "Mr Devant, I know over three hundred tricks with cards. How many do you know?" Devant responded: "I should say that I know about eight."
Here he was making the point that there is a difference in knowing how a card trick is done, and knowing how to do a card trick.
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